In this classic interview from the vault, legendary FBI negotiator Gary Noesner (former Chief of the FBI’s Crisis Negotiations Unit, author of Stalling for Time) breaks down what really happens in standoffs—and why 90% aren’t classic hostage situations. We cover Waco, the Montana Freemen, Republic of Texas, the psychology of suicide-by-cop, and how teams decide between more talk or tactical action. If you’re into negotiation, psychology, law enforcement, or crisis leadership, this is a masterclass.

In this episode:
• Crisis vs. Hostage: why emotion-driven standoffs dominate
• Leverage when the demand is “leave us alone”
• Waco lessons: patience, intermediaries, pressure vs. force
• Montana Freemen (85 days): creating conditions for talks
• Republic of Texas: ideology, Rangers, peaceful surrender
• Inside the room: team roles, threat assessment, command calls
• Career path: crisis hotlines + active listening reps

Find out more (affiliate links)

🎧 Gary’s book (audio read by Gary): Stalling for Time → https://amzn.to/4nupOmw
📺 Waco (series based in part on Gary’s book): https://amzn.to/4mC2ulr

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