FBI Counterterrorism Agent Barry Black joins me for a deep-dive into the Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, John Doe #2, and what it was like working inside the FBI during some of the biggest counterterrorism cases in modern American history.

In this interview, Barry Black discusses his career as an FBI bomb technician, sniper, and agent during a pivotal era that included Waco, the Oklahoma City bombing, the Olympic bombing, and the rise of domestic terrorism. He explains where he was on April 19, 1995, what happened after the Murrah Building attack, how evidence was handled, how John Doe #2 was pursued, and what investigators found in Timothy McVeigh’s car. We also discuss Waco, FBI tactical operations, how major cases unfold behind the scenes, and the pressure of working terrorism investigations in real time.

If you are following my Oklahoma City bombing series, this conversation adds an important firsthand federal perspective.

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